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After creating the successful Zv0 theory (http://greenwood-wolf.deviantart.com/art/Ninjago-The-Zane-Version-Zero-Theory-344076549), me :iconLincelot1: and Greenwood-Wolf :iconGreenwood-Wolf: have created a less advanced theory about the ninjas' home, the Destiny's Bounty. If after reading this you have a question, something to add, or a subject you want to discuss with either (or both) of us, feel free to speak up.

Greenwood-Wolf's text is enboldened, and mine is in Italics.

Right, as I promised the next subject will be the Destiny's Bounty. I haven't got much to go on yet, but that's the same with the Zv0 theory which turned out well.
You see, I think that between the pirates and the ninjas, there has been another force to call the ship their own.

So, as we all know the pirate crew under Captain Soto build the ship. Maybe they added a few cannons, but they couldn't add much more. Now if you look at when the Destiny's Bounty is found it's not only far inland, but the ship also has far less damage than what you'd expect for one that sailed into a cliff and sank. The only damage it had seemed to come from over time, like the floor that broke when one of the ninjas jumped, but everywhere else the floor was fragile, but not broken, thus someone has likely repaired it before the ninjas found it, as well as leave it a long time before that.

Now if you look at the functions the ship has, it had beds the moment the ninjas moved in, it had a sink, it had a curtain. Now what got me into this theory is the fact that Jay takes a cover off a machine, causing a layer of dust from it to get into the air. All Jay did was hit it with his nunchaku of lightning and it turned on, powering the lamps in the room. This means that someone around the time of that somewhat old machine placed one of them on the ship and had installed it. As I said the pirates couldn't have created any such thing, this is backed up by the fact that the captain's quarters was candlelit, and when the pirates were resurrect they didn't recognize any of it.

Also if you look at the junk that Cole removes from one room of the ship, you'll see that it's mostly pottery and a chest. You'd think that this could be from either the pirates or whatever came after, but since the ship sunk with it's back down first, it should all be at one side of the room, but it's found lying against all the walls, and even if the pirates left the ship peacefully, they wouldn't bother to leave that clutter on the ship, or to put it in one room. Now the pottery means that whoever placed it intended to stay for a longer period of time, and the chest that they had something worth placing in one, rather than to just put it somewhere.

Also the second visitor most likely left the ship at one point in time, because the place is completely void of anything valuable or any personal possessions.

Opinion?


I'm going to poke one possible (albeit minor) hole in your theory immediately.
Captain Soto and his crew lived, well, when? Eight hundred years before the Ninjas? A thousand? I don't care how long it is, but the point I'm trying to make is that coastlines could've changed.
In other words, what would've been a sea cliff where they crashed - it could've been on an inland sea, which later dried up.
However, that doesn't quite explain how the ship got to where Zane found it yet. I'll get back to that.

The one question I have is whether the pirates came before or after the First Spinjitzu Master defeated the Overlord.
(There's all sorts of continuity problems concerning the fact that he's Sensei and Garmadon's father, and that he created the world, yet there's been evil Serpentine around for thousands of years, etc.)
I just did some fact-checking and it's stated to be 'two hundred years ago'. That at least gives some reference, but doesn't explain the continuity errors.

Anyway. During that time period, an inland sea (where the Sea of Sand now is) could have existed. Take a look at the Sea of Sand and compare it to the bottom of Ninjago's oceans.
In 'Tick Tock', the bottom of whatever ocean/sea that they're over has a completely flat, sandy bottom with little rocky outcroppings every now and then. Even far away from Ninjago, on whatever island prison Julien was held at, it's still that same flat, sandy bottom with little rocky outcroppings (and the Leviathan's chain, but that's cheating), as seen in 'The Last Voyage'.
Take a look at the Sea of Sand. Completely flat, for the most part...

...except for one very large hill, upon which is perched the Anacondrai tomb.
If the Sea of Sand was once a real sea, then in theory the people of Ninjago who locked the Serpentine away were kinder than the Serpentine think they are.
You see, if there was a sea there two hundred years ago, there probably was a sea there a thousand years ago. And so, thus, the Anacondrai tomb was placed on a tropical island out of sight of land.
The reason the Anacondrai had to eat each other in the end? The climate became more arid over the later two hundred years, and thus, even though all of the tribes were intended to have a bit of food (the Hypnobrai had ice beetles, for instance - the other tribes probably had other things, too), when the sea dried up, whatever small animals were living on the island (most likely insects, or small birds) would have needed to go somewhere else to avoid starving to death or overheating in the sun. Thus, the Anacondrai were left with no food, and starved, thus needing to eat each other over the remaining fifty or one hundred years or so.
Sorry. Side-theory.

But, if said 'sea' dried up, leaving the yellowish sand at its bottom, there had to be a point during which someone could have found the wreck, realized it wasn't actually in that bad of shape (since apparently all seas in Ninjago have too few nutrients to support most plant and animal life, since there is pretty much nothing living/growing in them), fixed it up a bit, added all the machinery, and began living on the boat. There is clear evidence that the Bounty has moved - when Zane finds it, where is that cliff? Unless if most of the cliff got buried by sand (in which case, the Bounty would have been buried 20 feet or more); or Zane pushed it, alone, a few miles at minimum; there's no other explanation.
So, this person keeps living on the boat until the sea dries to the point where they can't sail anymore, and then realizes that the boat is useless, and abandons it. The marooned ship waits for however long, gradually deteriorating over time (it actually isn't as likely to rot, since it'll all be dried out. Dried-out wood will either burn or petrify faster than it will rot in a desert) until the Ninjas find it however much later.


Well it had to be a dried sea, because otherwise, frankly, the ship couldn't have gotten there. The Sea of Sand is indeed big enough to have been a sea, and it is also inland (as seen when the ninjas follow the falcon, through places including the desert, yet without reaching water).
The Sea of Sand also has the rocky outcroppings that the seas have, so that is three arguments that say the desert is a dried-up sea.

Probably after, because they were searching for the Island of Darkness, so it had to be after the First Master split the land into the two islands. Besides, otherwise the world would still be a massive warground when they were around.
About the Garmadon brothers, that makes sense because they are both immortal guardians of the good half of Ninjago, until one of them became evil. After all, they used to be a dominant fighting force against evil, despite the fact that neither could have set foot on their opposing island. Not only do they have great powers (Garmadon ran up a high monastery wall as a kid, just as an example), they also can not die. When during the duel between brothers Garmadon was struck by lightning (that might have actually been the First Master. Who else could have done that, with Sensei Wu lying on the ground at Garmadon's mercy?), the very ground cracked open just to throw him into the underworld, where he usurps the throne in the first ten minutes after his arrival.

Indeed, flat except for the rocky outcroppings that were also in the current seas of Ninjago.
About the hill, remember that sand in a desert tends to move due to the wind, yet the entrance to the Anacondrai tomb was above the surface. Isn't that odd? Would it mean that there's another entrance?
Yes, they probably did have those, considering LEGO did decide to have the Anacondrai starve, thus the other's would have food to avoid the same fate without cannibalism.
In their time imprisoned, the tribes had more than enough time to adapt to their new habitats, as can be seen from the Hypnobrai's ice sculpturing. (I do wonder though, why didn't the Constrictai just burrow out of their mountain?)

You're right about that. While fish have appeared underwater, and the leviathan (and thus enough fish to feed it) has been able to survive despite being chained to one spot, there seems to be very little plant growth in the seas of Ninjago. Yes, the location isn't where the pirates 'left' it. The lack of a hill, and yet the presence of the ship on the surface is enough to proof that, as you said.
That's probably what happened, because whoever left it had enough time to do as he liked. After all, the one chest that was on board was emptied, but all the worthless junk was left.
I do think we're talking about more than one person though, considering the multiple beds and the large amount of pottery. You're right about the fact that it didn't rot. The wooden floor and walls looked fine, despite being fragile.


Exactly.

It said 'two hundred years ago' in Pirates vs. Ninja. This still brings up the matter of exactly when Garmadon and Wu were born, though... Garmadon had not heard of Captain Soto and his crew, so either they weren't very famous, he just hadn't heard of them for whatever reason, or they were too busy searching for the Dark Island around the time that Wu and Garmadon were kids, instead of pillaging like they used to.
And that does help explain things, like why Sensei was able to be eaten by the Devourer and survive. Of course, it also means that Pythor didn't survive, since Sensei is simply immortal...

My guess about that would be that the Anacondrai tomb is set on a very thick layer of sandstone/rock, and thus is immobile. The sand would blow up and around said hill, but due to the low-lying nature of the rest of the land, would be unable to bury it. Thus, no need for a second entrance.
(If I had to guess, the Constrictai tomb is made out of some sort of impermeable rock for the most part. However, to give them something to 'entertain' themselves with for the thousand years, the people that entombed them made sure that there was a thick layer of dirt there for them to dig around in. They can't dig through rock, anyhow, as shown by what happened when they tried to dig through the stone 'door' to the Stone Army tomb. They just couldn't. That rock was as old as Ninjago itself, or the slightest bit younger. I wouldn't be surprised if the First Spinjitzu Master couldn't have used the same substance to create an impregnable tomb for the Constrictai.)

If I had to guess, Ninjago's seas are very salty, and thus make it harder for enough light to get to the bottom without being reflected off of particles in the water. The fish are probably surviving off of microscopic plankton, and the Leviathan is obviously surviving off of fish.
Seriously. If I had to guess, the only stuff that is 'growing' in Ninjago's oceans is phytoplankton, and all (or almost all) of the other organisms are surviving on that. There is the occasional coral, though, but that would only be eaten by a select few organisms, due to the limestone skeletons they make.
Of course, this is all assuming that Ninjago's ecosystems are relatively similar to ours in that way. They seem to be, at least.

For the most proof, the Bounty no longer has its pirate sails when the Ninja find it - in fact, its sails are in rather good shape, but they're white with red accents, not black like when the pirates had them. The pirate sails would have rotted away underwater anyway, and would have needed to be replaced by someone.
Plus, the ship looks parked there. There's even a little fence built around part of its bow. If I had to guess, it was some sort of trading ship, which in its final moments as a sailing vessel was parked in an abandoned seaport. It explains the beds and the pottery found onboard.
However, the sea dried up to the point where the ship was no use anymore, and the crew was only able to carry away so many of their possessions, so they left the pottery and the beds, hoping to come back later and carry off the valuable pottery. They probably all lost their way in the desert and died from starvation or dehydration (though more likely starvation, since some of the sea would still have been left - however, if the water was as salty as I have proved, it wouldn't have helped them anyway). It's clear that the Bounty was in the middle of nowhere, as demonstrated by the long walk to get there. Maybe when the sea was higher, it could have actually been a seaport like I stated earlier.
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Again, the person I was theorizing with is :icongreenwood-wolf:, props to her. Also, as stated earlier, if you have anything to add, or something you want to discuss with either of us, feel free to do so.
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~Greenwood-Wolf Mar 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Good to get this out here. It looks good.

You might want to remove the icon codes for each of us from inside the theory. They don't work inside text entries, only journals, descriptions, comments etc.
Just a little note :D
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~Wolfpelt9550 Mar 7, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Not to mention, there was also the big generator that Jay started back up with the Nunchucks of Lightning.
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~Lincelot1 Mar 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Yes, that's the machine I mentioned in the first part of my text. Thanks for pointing it out though.
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~Wolfpelt9550 Mar 7, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
You're welcome
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Yeah, the generator was a little out of date.
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~Wolfpelt9550 Apr 1, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Yep.
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